so today i was asked my thoughts on the pool party incident in mcminney, texas.
my response: it shows a clash of expectations.
i saw police officers who expected citizens to listen to and follow instructions.
"Officers are citizens, and also public servants."
Not in the USofA
Officers are demi-gods in the united states along with former military veterans. In the eyes of the 40 - 80 year olds they are to be praised regardless of their actions. Especially in the Southern States and the Mid-West
Painting police officers and the general public with that broad brush is ridiculous.
so today i was asked my thoughts on the pool party incident in mcminney, texas.
my response: it shows a clash of expectations.
i saw police officers who expected citizens to listen to and follow instructions.
They have no authority over the public *unless* someone is committing or suspected of committing a crime.
In every jurisdiction I'm familiar with there are laws against interfering with the work of a police officer. If someone is interfering with the work of a police officer that person is subject to being contained, probably by having them sit down or, if deemed necessary, cuffed. If in this instance an individual repeatedly fails to respond as instructed a police officer will likely act to cuff the person and, if there is any resistance, force will be met with equal-plus force until the interference is contained.
so today i was asked my thoughts on the pool party incident in mcminney, texas.
my response: it shows a clash of expectations.
i saw police officers who expected citizens to listen to and follow instructions.
The Italian police preyed on the black community this way. The stories could go on and on.
When I was a boy we once lived for several years in a community comprised nearly entirely of black families. As a white kid I was a minority in that neighborhood. I found myself preyed upon by black kids in the neighborhood. I often had to run home from where I was playing to avoid being beat on by groups of black boys. I had a two mile walk to school. Every morning and every afternoon. I had to constantly change my route because black kids would wait for me to push me around and see what i had on me of value. For being white.
You tell me: Should I look at all other situations through the lens of that experience, as though blacks are out to get the whites? I don't think so, and I hope I'm right!
The McKinney pool party incident is not Newark, New Jersey.
so today i was asked my thoughts on the pool party incident in mcminney, texas.
my response: it shows a clash of expectations.
i saw police officers who expected citizens to listen to and follow instructions.
The girl was hesitant to leave because she wanted to pick up her glasses.
And the police officer wanted to protect everyone's safety in response to an emergency call of a large crowd of teenagers and violence, oh and he had no idea how many weapons might be in this crowd.
The bikini gal was clueless when it comes to priorities. She was about herself. The police officer was about everyone else's safety.
I get an impression that some find themselves unable to look at this incident through the eyes of someone who's drive and duty is to protect public safety and find themselves dropped into the middle of a crowd that is out of control and they have no idea who might have done what in terms of violence or criminal conduct. I can tell you personally, one of the last things of concern to me would be whether someone lost their glasses. Ultimately I'd be more than happy to help someone find their lost glasses, and would find pleasure in doing so. But in the moment of trying to restore order to protect public safety I'd find it a hindrance to have to keep giving the same instruction to the same person over and over again when her safety and the safety of others might be in much greater jeopardy from dangers yet realized.
Folks have every right to be upset about bad police work they've been exposed to. But we should refrain from transposing those experiences onto others (like the McKinney pool party incident) by presuming they are similar in terms of what officers were thinking and why. When I look at the video I see the officer at issue working hard, and not for himself. I'm sure he'd rather not be running around in hot, humid weather after some teenager that probably a lot more fit than he is. I'm sure he'd rather not be in the middle of a street where cars are known to go to and fro talking on his radio being distracted by lots of meandering, running and gawking teens. I'm sure he'd much rather be doing just about anything else. But he's there. He's there, and he's working to protect public safety. He's working. The bikini clad gal is playing. The priority was safety; not her glasses. She should have obeyed instructions from the officer. She could have sat down, or she could have left the scene. She did neither.
there are a few hardcore believers that will do whatever they are told to do but i think a majority do whatever they decide to do.
they are not coerced into anything.
they publicly work along with the program but in reality, do whatever they want to do.. i think the leaders have their hands full..
so today i was asked my thoughts on the pool party incident in mcminney, texas.
my response: it shows a clash of expectations.
i saw police officers who expected citizens to listen to and follow instructions.
...the people in the cities DID attempt to leave the city as the jobs moved out to the outskirts, but were not allowed to....
To buy that assertion as true I'd have to believe that not a single person living in one these communities you speak of made their way to a better future by working to that end. I don't see any reason to believe such a thing.
What you and others are doing is looking at the tail end of this situation, at ta generation who suffered from the brunt of it, and saying "life isn't fair, but they should have come up with a way to fix their own situation, oh well,"
I'm not suggesting what folks of yesteryear should have done. I'm talking about what folks living and breathing right now should be doing, and starting in their own homes.
this topic was inspired by one of fhn's comments on the 'warzone' thread, so i'll just restate my post there .
.. "i've been wondering for a while now if ridicule really is an unacceptable feature in debate - it certainly isn't a valid form of argumentation.
the thing is, some individuals really do come out with the most laughable nonsense and parade it as a serious proposition that merits attention.
I was trying to be clever...
What on earth are you talking about?
You were extraordinarily clever in my book!
What you said could not have been more true. You cannot make a horse think its a ass because a horse is not an ass.
PS: I think I'd have said, You can lead an ass to water but you can't make'em see that they are an ass.
Does that work?
so today i was asked my thoughts on the pool party incident in mcminney, texas.
my response: it shows a clash of expectations.
i saw police officers who expected citizens to listen to and follow instructions.
...oppression on citizens forced in ghetto enclaves...
The longer I live the more this ghetto theme loses traction with me.
Governments don't pull communities from ghettos. Communities pull themselves from ghettos.
Name the social disease (slavery, poverty, discrimination ...). There is no peoples on the face of planet earth whose ancestors at some time in human history have not suffered horribly due to one or another. None of these peoples were emancipated from ghetto-like environments by a government. Each that found its way from such an environment made their own way out by owning their own future and working hard toward a productive end. Even European Jews lucky enough to survive Nazi Germany had to claw their way back from poverty despite being relieved from Nazis by Allied forces. They started by cleaning the streets in front of their own living quarters.
The world we live in is cold and hard. We can't make it warm and fuzzy for anyone no matter how hard we try. For children we try to make it easier, but they have to eventually grow up and understand their life is going to be no more than they are able to make it, and with some luck maybe a little better than that.
what would happen if i would write a physical letter to, for example, the branch office.
and ask questions about scandals like the ngo thing and other stuff?
or ask questions about wtbs economy, or ask for a annual report, which is something i would really like to read.
What would happen if I would write a physical letter to, for example, the branch office. and ask questions about scandals like the NGO thing and other stuff? Or ask questions about WTBS economy, or ask for a annual report, which is something I would really like to read. Thats impossible to get, or?
You'll never get an honest straightforward answer from Watchtower on a specific question of a tough subject. Never. It does not matter how you get the question to its leadership. You won't get what you're looking for.
after all, "at this time,over 13,000 kingdom hall projects and 35 assembly hall projects are needed worldwide.".
hmmm, not too sure about that but all the recent re-branding seems to be heading .
could this be the long game?
